In a debate, so far conducted as an exchange of comments, I have made a longer comment than the system allows, so I have brought it a a post below:
I refer to my post and subsequent comments 'Beyond the Facts' with Antony North, below'
'This was not how capitalism was meant to be, originally devised by Adam Smith as a philosophy to go alongside thrift.'
My problem with this sentence is the part: “how capitalism was meant to be”.
Societies are not ‘meant to be’ (if so, who by? How does the ‘meant to be’ work?, etc.).
Societies are not ‘designed’ by any one person. All attempts at utopias fail; good intentions account for nothing; nobody
‘designed’ any previous society.
Gatherers engaged in certain behaviours which they inherited from their primate ancestors (the common ancestor of both hominines (hominids) and chimpanzees). They developed regional behavioural differences. The pre-history of primates and hominines show variations (east and west African chimpanzees, bonobo’s, and the lineage of hominines went through at least 18 different species before the human species emerged, 400,000 years ago). Homo sapiens also varied in their adaptabilities to local conditions.
Gatherers, opportunistically, also hunted small-sized animals (as do chimpanzees), later going after scavenged carcasses and, eventually hunted bigger game, assisted by primitive technologies – worked stones and wooden shaped weapons.
No individual designed these changes – those that worked assisted survival; those never tried left those who never tried at the inherited level of subsistence (for most hominid species, they had long histories, counted in hundreds of thousands of years before their extinctions).
Shepherding was picked up by minorities of local tribes, as was farming. The majority of gatherer-hunters/scavengers remained as they were as humans for most of the 400,000 year span lived by humans so far. As John Locke put it: 'in the beginning al the world was America’ (in reaction to the discovery by higher technology tribes of lower technology tribes still living as did our forebears in the forest). Even today, there are some isolated tribes still living off their surroundings as the whole world once lived.
The division of labour was not designed by anybody; it happened as individuals found it worked for them. Professor Frances Hutchison opined in his posthumous work, A System of Moral Philosophy (1755), that the leader divided up the tribe into separate jobs, which was solely from his imagination. Where did the leader get the idea from? Or was it discovered independently scores of thousands of times over and again across human societies?
Hence, I come back to the question of who invented capitalism, a question that must also explain how and why it took different forms across the globe among those human societies that had moved from pastoral subsistence to ‘towns and countryside’ and had survived and functioned in many different forms across Europe and Asia, from the Atlantic to China, with many examples of some societies collapsing (Mediterranean) or stagnating (India and China) and not sustaining (or reviving) into commercial societies, as happened in late-Medieval western Europe from the 15th century.
The rise of commercial civil societies in the 18th century is explained historically and how and why they went on into distinctive forms of capitalism from mid-19th century onwards.
Crediting an individual when there were many individuals thinking and contributing their ideas, is the folly of such assertions. Just because some key thinkers (Pufendorf, Chydenius, Quesnay, Cantillon, Turgot, List, Hamilton are less well known today is not a good reason to hand such a role to Adam Smith, who did not live long enough to codify how British capitalism (which evolved differently from Scandinavian, French, German, and US capitalism) evolved. Moreover, as much of his legacy had been heavily distorted, and confused with others (Mandeville, the Physiocrats, Ferdinand Lasalle, Marx, etc., - see my Adam Smith’s Lost Legacy, 2005: Palgrave-Macmillan) it is not difficult to rebut the idea that he ‘designed’ capitalism.
You ask: ‘Is it correct to say Smith devised his concepts within an ethic of thrift? I think so’.
I answer that it is a extreme generalization. ‘Thrift’ as you postulate is in Smith’s philosophy expressed as ‘frugality’, as opposed to ‘prodigality’.
Thackeray and others, (say, Trollope) noted the extravagant living of the upper-orders and saw the corruptions of the finance capital, which was the essence of late-19th century ‘capitalism’. Corruption was already evident in the South Sea Bubble, the East India Company, etc., in Smith’s time, in a relatively smaller–scale commercial society, and was more than evident in the decline of Rome. Adam Smith observed; he did not predict nor proscribe.
Capitalism evolved whatever Adam Smith or anybody else thought about the society they lived in. It has ever been thus; human nature is unchanging.
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